Joost Bakker is an artist who provokes questions about the way we (re)use the materials in our lives. Challenging notions of what sustainability can involve with beautiful, surprising and deceptively simple designs, his initial floral work for Melbourne restaurants and bars has led to everything from public installations to large housing solutions. After creating his Greenhouse restaurant in Melbourne’s Federation Square using completely recycled and sustainable materials (with a functioning roof garden), Bakker successfully replicated it in Perth to much excitement.
Bakker’s family migrated to Australia from Holland when he was nine years old, and has a long history of farming flowers. With his inventive eye for what others might term rubbish and a deep connection to the spaces in which we like to gather, Bakker is a natural fit for our social sustainability spotlight.
www.joost.com.au
www.greenhouseperth.com
Has your work always had a sustainable bent?
I’ve always found life in what other people see as waste. Once you’re interested, you start to get an understanding of how complex something like recycling actually is. Take the sticker on an apple. Making compost, I keep coming across these little stickers and thinking, ‘why couldn’t we use something that breaks down organically, instead of plastic?’ And I’ve always wondered why you’d buy flowers in Queensland and send them to Melbourne. It’s never made sense to me.
How did you go from working with flowers in small social spaces like restaurants and bars, to bigger work with other materials?
You do flowers in a restaurant and become friends with the people who own it, then they might ask for help with something else.
Is there an educational element to your work?
I’m not into hammering things down people’s throats. I just do it, and if people like what I do, great – but it’s up to them to make change. And it is up to people, not government. People have to demand change. So I figure I won’t ram it down people’s throats, which means they might not pick up on some little details in my work. But I also like the idea that people who’ve been coming to Greenhouse for four months will suddenly notice something different.
Tell us about the Greenhouse in Perth.
It’s right in the heart of the city and will stay there for 10 years. We make everything there; yoghurt, fetta, jam; we’re milling our own wheat from a farm outside of Perth and making our own bread and pasta. It’s much busier than Melbourne and way beyond what we expected.
How do you feel about the response?
I’m shocked. As an artist I’m always doubtful people will appreciate an idea I have, but Perth must be ready for it. Somebody bought a piece at an exhibition back in 2002, and said, “I don’t like it, but I know I will. I know your stuff grows on me.” If you instantly love something, you can only grow to dislike it. If it slowly grows on you, I think you’ll have a better appreciation of it.
Would you like to do more than simply make things?
I get asked to sit on panels and so on, but I’d rather keep doing stuff. I think that’s my role.
What are some of the problems thatcome up when businesses don’t take social sustainability into account?
A good example is the lack of focus on local communities. My daughter’s school is currently having an extension built. I pushed for them to use local builders, but they had to use governmentapproved contractors who ended up coming from the other side of the city.
If you had builders who live nearby working on this project, not only would you be reducing pollution and transport, they would take a lot more pride in theirwork than someone who’s more interested in finishing up in time to miss peak hour traffic.
Do you see business benefits from socially sustainable ideas?
Look at Greenhouse. If you run a business that sells food in Perth and you’re quiet, and you look across the road at a place that’s milling their own grain, growing their own vegetables, using cuts of meat that nobody normally wants and they’re busy, then you’d want to investigate.